Talk:Werecreature
Only Natural Lycanthropes can pass on the curse
Page says ALL lycanthropes can pass on the curse, but the rules say only a natural lycanthrope has "Curse of Lycanthropy" to pass on the curse.
Copied from the d20pfsrd site (though I did check the book also, emphasis mine):
Curse of Lycanthropy (Su)
A natural lycanthrope's bite attack in animal or hybrid form infects a humanoid target with lycanthropy (Fortitude DC 15 negates). If the victim's size is not within one size category of the lycanthrope, this ability has no effect.
I am not good at formatting and such, being sort of new also I don't want to make the changes for this myself, but I thought I might mention it as a possible mistake I noticed. AbsolutGrndZer0 (talk) 02:53, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- I confirmed that this is also the text in the referenced source book (the bestiary) and so I made the change. This may have been something that was corrected in a later printing of the bestiary if Alex was working off a 1st printing when he originally wrote that sentence. If you find something else, feel free to be bold and change it. one of the joys of wikis is that we can roll back to a prior version of a page with less than 5 clicks, so you won't break anything permanently, and you can always ask one of the more active users for help once you've started- Cpt kirstov (talk) 19:18, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Pathfinder Second Edition Bestiary 328–329 make it clear that true/natural and afflicted werecreatures can both pass the curse. Article updated accordingly. Other references elsewhere on the wiki need updating; I've already updated lycanthropy/curse of the werecreature/Curses of Golarion. I also removed lycanthropy from Diseases of Golarion because it is now unequivocally not a disease in either mechanics or flavor and cannot be treated or cured as one. -Oznogon (talk) 20:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Change to Beastkin?
Should this page be renamed to Beastkin, given the LOst Omens Ancestry Guide?
- No, I'm pretty sure beastkin is the new name of skinwalkers, not lycanthropes. Werecreature is what lycanthropes were renamed to. - HTD (talk) 00:20, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- In most cases like this, you would create a redirect article, so werecreature would redirect to lycanthrope. This way when people search for either term, they find the article with all the words. As for a signature, you can either type --~~~~ (i.e. two hyphens followed by three tildes), or click on the third button from the right in the editing header that appears above any article you are editing. (FYI, I've also updated your previous post manually to make it look like the others). --Brandingopportunity (talk) 15:15, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- Sounds like
Monster Core2E Bestiary narrowly defines lycanthropy as specific to werewolves and thus should redirect to werewolf instead of this more general article. -Oznogon (talk) 19:09, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds like
Merge [Completed]
In 1st Edition, the differences between lycanthropes and entothropes were never really pronounced at the first place, at least not any moreso than the differences between different species of lycanthrope and entothrope (the only notable one is the plant that is required to remove the curse). There should not be any problem with merging them into a page called werecreature and note the differences there (especially since werecreature is used for both in 2nd Edition). - HTD (talk) 03:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'll assume if there's no comment in a week that it is acceptable to merge lycanthrope and entothrope into werecreature and make relevant changes to other articles. - HTD (talk) 10:32, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks HTD. Let me know what you need deleting when you're done upgrading the category trees, etc. --Fleanetha (talk) 14:00, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Merged. I have also made some minor changes to the related infobox (namely moving jackalweres to the association section, since they are not true werecreatures). - HTD (talk) 03:42, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- HTD, as discussed, could you tackle the underpinning categories, please, as part of your move project, as they are out of synch now? Thanks --Fleanetha (talk) 22:09, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Also, I notice you changed the template expansion 'abbr' parameters - they now need changing on all the affected pages, please, to allow the correct expansions. I've already updated the navbox documentation for you. --Fleanetha (talk) 22:15, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- FYI, just tidied the art categories for you. --Fleanetha (talk) 21:09, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- To help, I have just updated the navbox and categories for you for the darvakkas so you can follow suit with the werecreatures please. --Fleanetha (talk) 16:03, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Merged. I have also made some minor changes to the related infobox (namely moving jackalweres to the association section, since they are not true werecreatures). - HTD (talk) 03:42, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks HTD. Let me know what you need deleting when you're done upgrading the category trees, etc. --Fleanetha (talk) 14:00, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Never mind, I've repaired all your breakages for you, HTD, four months on. See your talk page. --Fleanetha (talk) 15:17, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
Cleanup
The article has been badly out of date since at least Bestiary 2 (Second Edition)/May 2020, which changed several fundamental details about werecreatures. I've removed several statements citing only non-canon Pathfinder First Edition Bestiary volumes, but some remain. Removing or replacing them with canonical sources would help. -Oznogon (talk) 20:04, 19 March 2024 (UTC)