Talk:Harpy

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Update needed

Major section in Mythical Monsters Revisited covers this monster.--Fleanetha 16:14, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

2E updates

2E Pathfinder Bestiary, a tier 1 source, eliminates all mentions of sexual monomorphism or requirements of other species for mating, and depicts male harpies in art (some 1E art also depicted harpies without feminine features; one such piece of art was already on this article).

Since this is a retcon rather than a conflict, I've moved the 1E content stating otherwise into comments but left it in the page source rather than flag it as a conflict. It's also possible from a canon perspective that harpies encountered during 1E adventures or depicted in MMR simply weren't representative of all harpy culture. -Oznogon (talk) 07:24, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Makes sense. Would a footnote on the main page help for those not editing though and seeing the hidden comment? I'll add and you can adjust if needed. --Fleanetha (talk) 17:16, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
It seems disclosed here on the Talk page. It could be a note on the Meta page, and creating a Meta page would cause the Meta link automatically appear in the References section. But because this is a retcon through omission, there's nothing conclusive to cite, and I'm not sure what concrete information would go into a footnote in the main content, nor whom it would serve. Since this is an expansion of harpy lore rather than a wholesale rewrite, if it genuinely warrants a footnote, then perhapse we should treat it as a canon conflict and use {{Conflict}}. Otherwise, the only relevance is to editors, who will at worst see the commented-out content, and at best will read this discussion before attempting to make changes. -Oznogon (talk) 07:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
On reflection, there seems little point in replicating the same words on the main page, so have compromised by making a reference to this discussion. --Fleanetha (talk) 12:17, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

2e Remaster Update

Remaster Monster Core p.193 changed aspect of again, this time Removing Hypnotic songs and replacing it with a sudo-telepathic ventriloquism and a wind-vacuum-like pull. Again how should this be handled? -Stejo (talk) 19:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

  • Monster Core also says harpies don’t find goblins taste good, while past sources says intensity of goblin manic fear is all but irresistible?12
  1. Jonathan H. Keith. Harpy” in Mythical Monsters Revisited, 23. Paizo Inc., 2012
  2. Logan Bonner, et al. “Monsters A-Z” in Bestiary, 204. Paizo Inc., 2019