PathfinderWiki:2E trait box inclusion initiative

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On 31 July 2022, User:Virenerus added the capability to mimic Paizo's 2E trait boxes to the PathfinderWiki. This inclusion initiative is designed to help the incorporation of that facility across the wiki in an organised fashion that anyone can jump in to help. Ideas for using the trait boxes can be added here, as well as a list of which pages need updating or checking. Struck through text can then be used to show jobs completed thus: done. You can add your signature too --~~~~. Please use this page's discussion page to debate the questions raised below.

2E Trait template

Here is a link to the new template: Template:2eTrait.

For anyone else who wants to start working on checking traits, the official format is as below: Rarity if uncommon or above - Alignment - Size - Other Traits in alphabetical order

Alphabetization is important too to maintain consistency with Paizo published sources, e.g.,

Air
Elemental

for Air Elementals, and

Elemental
Water

for Water Elementals.

From now on, all new pages or modified pages should attempt to utilise the appropriate full set of Paizo 2E trait boxes. If these do not yet exist, raise here as a job to do or on our wiki's Discord channel.

Our sister project Archives of Nethys has a useful 2E trait list here.

Creatures [COMPLETED]

See the appendix below for a record of the initial inspection of bot updates that was completed 11 August 2022

Classes and prestige classes/Archetypes [COMPLETED?]

  • Consider if {{Class}} and {{Prestige class}} require 2E trait boxes and how best to handle them
    • Redirect/Add {{Archetypes}}--Laclale (talk) 11:40, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
      • Archetypes, so far, don't get a page or an infobox (ib), so we can review this later if needed --Fleanetha (talk) 18:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
    • Added trait box for {{Class}} to handle rarity--Laclale (talk) 14:31, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
    • PrC seem not to be in 2E
      • Yup, I meant "Reuse PrC template to archetypes template or not".--Laclale (talk) 22:09, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
    • Added 2e-source to {{Prestige class}}. What's "ib"?--Laclale (talk)
  • Amend any template help pages with help for the 2E trait boxes and 2E additions
    • Class done--Laclale (talk) 14:37, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Make 2E trait boxes for relevant traits in the right colour (they seem to use the rarity and standard brown for traits)
  • Amend category structure for these new traits as needed after assessment of what there is
  • Update article spawners as needed: Category:Preload templates Laclale
  • Apply to existing pages that already have 2E traits added (there may not be any of these yet at project start)

All new class and prestige pages and pages being updated to 2E should adopt the 2E trait boxes from now on as decided.

Items

  • Consider if any templates covering mundane items require 2E trait boxes and how best to handle 2E items ({{alchemical item}}, {{ship}}, {{vehicle}}, {{planar vehicle}}, {{technological item}})
  • Consider how to handle equipment, poison, weapon, and armour trait boxes
  • Amend any template help pages with help for the 2E trait boxes and 2E additions
    • Alchemical done --Fleanetha (talk) 16:59, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
    • ship, vehicle, planar vehicle, technological item done --Fleanetha (talk) 18:07, 6 November 2022 (UTC) & Laclale
  • Make 2E trait boxes for relevant traits in the right colour (they seem to use the standard rarity traits and then use the standard brown for other traits)
  • Amend category structure for these new traits as needed after assessment of what there is
    • New vehicle tree created - use for ships and planar vehicles too --Fleanetha (talk) 18:07, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Update article spawners as needed: Category:Preload templates
    • Alchemical done --Fleanetha (talk) 16:59, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
    • Ship & technological item done, plus vehicle & planar vehicle do not exist --Fleanetha (talk) 18:20, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Apply to existing pages that already have 2E traits added (there may not be any of these yet at project start)

All new item pages and pages being updated to 2E should adopt the 2E trait boxes from now on as decided.

  • {{Item}} is mostly for notable adventure gears, but documentation has information about what is added/changed.--Laclale (talk) 11:38, 20 September 2022 (UTC) & --Fleanetha (talk) 17:02, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Magic items

  • Amend {{Magic item}} to include 2E trait boxes and to best to handle 2E magic items--Laclale (talk) 12:22, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Amend {{Magic item/doc}} with help for the 2E trait boxes and 2E additions--Laclale (talk) 12:31, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Make 2E trait boxes for magic item traits in the right colour (they seem to use the standard rarity traits and then use the standard brown for other magic item traits, including tradition) --Fleanetha (talk) 17:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Amend category structure for magic item traits as needed after assessment of what there is --Fleanetha (talk) 17:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Update article spawners as needed: Category:Preload templates --Fleanetha (talk) 16:58, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Apply to existing pages that already have 2E traits added (there may not be any of these yet at project start)

All new settlement pages and pages being updated to 2E should adopt the 2E trait boxes from now on.

Organizations [COMPLETED]

Best source for information found is: Character Guide 63ff.

  • Amend {{Organization}} to include 2E trait boxes --Fleanetha (talk) 08:12, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Amend {{Organization/doc}} with help for the 2E trait boxes --Fleanetha (talk) 08:12, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Make 2E trait boxes for organization traits in the right colour (seem to use alignment and size standard traits in same colours, plus some organization traits in standard brown.) --Fleanetha (talk) 08:12, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Amend category structure for organization traits as needed --Fleanetha (talk) 08:42, 9 August 2022 (UTC) + Brandingopportunity
  • Apply to existing pages that already have 2E traits added --Fleanetha (talk) 09:07, 9 August 2022 (UTC) + Brandingopportunity
  • Update article spawners as needed: Category:Preload templates --17:15, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

All new organization pages and pages being updated to 2E should adopt the 2E trait boxes from now on.

Nations [COMPLETED]

See Gamemastery Guide (Second Edition) 130f.

  • Amend {{Nation}} to include 2E trait boxes--Laclale (talk) 12:48, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Amend {{Nation/doc}} with help for the 2E trait boxes--Laclale (talk) 12:48, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Make 2E trait boxes for nation traits in the right colour: only seen alignment ones so far --Fleanetha (talk) 07:38, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Amend category structure for nation traits if needed: alreadycat tree for nation alignments --Fleanetha (talk) 07:38, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Apply to existing pages that already have 2E traits added: none found --Fleanetha (talk) 07:38, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Update article spawners as needed --Fleanetha (talk) 17:07, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

All new nation pages and pages being updated to 2E should adopt the 2E trait boxes from now on.

Person [COMPLETED]

  • Amend {{Person}} to include 2E trait boxes
  • Amend {{Person/doc}} with help for the 2E trait boxes
  • Amend {{Person tabbed}} to include 2E trait boxes
  • Amend {{Person tabbed/doc}} with help for the 2E trait boxes
  • Make 2E trait boxes for NPC traits in the right colour—on the whole, use creature ones
  • Amend category structure for NPC traits if needed - traits are usually creature traits and we do not want every NPC filling those categories. As an example Mialari Docur has traits: Unique; CN; Medium; Elf; Humanoid. Unique, Medium, Elf creature, Humanoid creature are all creature traits so need no categorisation with preference for Elf/Inhabitant instead. CN is also better categorised as CN inhabitants. Thus, for now, the existing category structure works for 2e NPCs. --Fleanetha (talk) 12:06, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Apply to existing pages that already have 2E traits added
  • Update article spawners as needed: Category:Preload templates --Fleanetha (talk) 17:38, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

All new NPC pages and pages being updated to 2E should adopt the 2E trait boxes from now on.

Planes

See Gamemastery Guide (Second Edition) 136ff.

  • Amend {{Plane}} to include 2E trait boxes--Laclale (talk) 14:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Amend {{Plane/doc}} with help for the 2E trait boxes--Laclale (talk) 00:04, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Consider what needs to be done with {{Abyssal realm}}
  • Make 2E trait boxes for planar traits in the right colour
  • Amend category structure for planar traits if needed
  • Update article spawners as needed: Category:Preload templates
    • Missing doc, what to do?Laclale (talk) 03:47, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
  • Apply to existing pages that already have 2E traits added

All new plane pages and pages being updated to 2E should adopt the 2E trait boxes from now on.

Settlements [COMPLETED]

See Gamemastery Guide (Second Edition) 132ff.

  • Amend {{City}} to include 2E trait boxes at top with no subtitle before them --Fleanetha (talk) 20:26, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Amend {{City/doc}} with help for the 2E trait boxes --Fleanetha (talk) 20:26, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Make 2E trait boxes for city traits in the right colour --Fleanetha (talk) 19:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
    • Nethys & GMG have
      City
      ;
      Metropolis
      ;
      Town
      ;
      Village
      but they should be green as per the size of creature trait boxes
  • Amend category structure for city traits if needed - need to consider names for 2E categories - already done: see Category:Settlements by trait --Fleanetha (talk) 19:50, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Apply to existing pages that already have 2E traits added --Fleanetha (talk) 20:08, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Update article spawners as needed: Category:Preload templates --Fleanetha (talk) 17:30, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

All new settlement pages and pages being updated to 2E should adopt the 2E trait boxes from now on.

Spells [COMPLETED]

  • Amend {{Spell}} to include 2E trait boxes
    • Done, tradition added too--Laclale (talk) 12:51, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Amend {{Spell/doc}} with help for the 2E trait boxes--Laclale (talk) 12:59, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Make 2E trait boxes for spell traits in the right colour: school, tradition and general spell traits (all seem to be in standard brown) --Fleanetha (talk) 17:01, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
    • Tradition is not here, but in magic item.--Laclale (talk) 22:35, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Amend category structure for spell traits as needed: DONE --Fleanetha (talk) 17:01, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
    • Tradition category too--Laclale (talk) 00:04, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Think how to handle 2E's lowest spell level as category --Fleanetha (talk) 17:01, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Update article spawners as needed: Category:Preload templates --Fleanetha (talk) 17:04, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Apply to existing pages that already have 2E traits added --Fleanetha (talk) 17:01, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

All new spell pages and pages being updated to 2E should adopt the 2E trait boxes from now on.

Other

  • Decide how best to handle {{Hellknight Orders}} and its documentation - no orders have been provided traits so far only the main organization.

Elements that do not use traits in 2E

So far, no evidence of the following elements using 2E trait boxes has been found. Please raise any if this proves incorrect.

  • Alchemical items Rarity trait.--Laclale (talk) 12:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Cosmos

Appendix: initial inspection of bot updates [COMPLETED 11 August 2022]

  • Existing {{Creature tabbed}} creature pages were updated by bot with the new 2E traits on 31 July 2022 by simply adding the template wrapper to existing elements already in the trait field of the tabbed infobox. So, it's likely no size or alignment trait will be listed and they will have to be manually added for each page as well as a general check for accuracy and correct order. Here is a list of all the pages updated, so we can check all the right traits are added and in the correct Paizo-book order (see above). Strike through each one once you have checked it:
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