Meta:Songbai

Renamed

Tian Xia World Guide ~~apparently~~ renames Shokuro to Songbai. -Oznogon (talk) 21:37, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

The flag for Shokuro used in previous works and in the Community Use Package (File:Shokuro flag.webp) has apparently been replaced with a white flag bearing a golden dragon-like horse on Tian Xia World Guide 200. -Oznogon (talk) 01:11, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

The renaming to Songbai and replacement of its banner are part of a stated intent by the Tian Xia World Guide chapter's author Tan Shao Han to reduce offensive real-world parallels to Japanese occupation of lands populated by ethnically Chinese peoples.¹ While the renaming is rationalized in-universe, I've accordingly removed the former flag from the article and added a notice to its file page advising against its use. -19:45, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

References

↑ "There's also complexities of culture, ethnicity, politics, history; of Chinese-coded Tian-Shu being ruled by Japanese-coded Tian-Min samurai (a literal Shogunate!) As a SEAsian Chinese whose grandparents lived through Imperial Japanese occupation, this was definitely an angle I considered carefully." Tan Shao Han. (April 30, 2024). (Thread), Bluesky.

Unincorporated sources

Tian Xia World Guide, particularly 200–207 -Oznogon (talk) 21:37, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Tian Xia Character Guide Tian Shen and Tian Xia zodiac 22; Yecha clan traces forebears to yakshas 79 --Stejo (talk) 17:48, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

[1] "There's also complexities of culture, ethnicity, politics, history; of Chinese-coded Tian-Shu being ruled by Japanese-coded Tian-Min samurai (a literal Shogunate!) As a SEAsian Chinese whose grandparents lived through Imperial Japanese occupation, this was definitely an angle I considered carefully." Tan Shao Han. (April 30, 2024). (Thread), Bluesky.

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