User talk:Stejo

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Scale of Igroon

Thanks for adding Scale of Igroon! I split it out of the Igroon article and edited to be a standalone article with categorization and linked to it from the Igroon article.

We can document mechanical abilities, but as a canon resource we have a "No crunch" policy that requires that such abilities be rewritten as in-universe effects. This effectively means that game rules and mechanics (like damage, hit points, or the Stealth skill) should be described only as they would be in-universe (like harm, health, and camouflage). My own rule of thumb for that is to imagine how a GM would describe the in-universe effects or abilities in-game when a PC or NPC uses them during a game. -Oznogon (talk) 17:28, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Plagiarism/copy-pasting from books

Hey Stejo, please review PathfinderWiki:Plagiarism — copying and pasting content from books violates the Community Use Policy and puts the project at risk. I've reverted the paragraphs pasted from Book of the Dead as a result. Thanks! -Oznogon (talk) 21:47, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

I've rewritten or reverted several of your edits incorporating fully or nearly verbatim text from Tian Xia World Guide to avoid putting the wiki at risk for copyright violations. We're allowed to use content from these texts only under these conditions as a matter of legal policy. Please rewrite new additions to the wiki in your own words. If you need assistance, please ask in our Discord chat. -Oznogon (talk) 03:49, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Copying and pasting verbatim text from books is a copyright issue regardless of whether the text is commented out. I have reverted, rewritten, or rolled back edits that added verbatim copied content in comments. To designate that a work has unincorporated content, note the work and page range on the article's Meta page, which for example had already been done for Tian Xia World Guide and Shenmen: see Meta:Shenmen. Details in PathfinderWiki:Meta page guidelines. -Oznogon (talk) 16:55, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Moving pages

Hi Stejo, I saw you'd moved a page for the Monster Core renaming - thanks but these moves are ever so tricky and need careful planning. I see Oznogon has done that work for you, so please take a look at the scale of the changes needed for any future ones you spot. There is a help page here that shows the sorts of things to consider: Help:Renaming pages due to canon changes . However, we are not expecting new users to cope with all of that, though if you're up for it - great. However, if you spot another necessary move, you can always add a Move template to the page and someone will be alerted to the need to plan the move thereafter. How to do this is covered here on the help page: Help:Renaming pages due to canon changes. Do reply if you have any questions or comments and thanks for all your work in your first couple of weeks. --Fleanetha (talk) 09:16, 7 May 2024 (UTC)


Reverted an edit on bandersnatch because the newly added references were to an unclear source that resulted in broken citations and infobox, and the plural form changes from bandersnatches to bandersnatchs were incorrect. -Oznogon (talk) 01:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Please take a pause

Thanks for all your recent work on the wiki, Stejo - it truly is much appreciated. However, your changes are important to get right. You will have seen they are generating considerable remedial work for the small admin team, and we are finding it difficult to keep up with your immense speed. Please take a break for a few days while we attempt to catch up and so we can all take a breath. --Fleanetha (talk) 22:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Considerations for future editing

Hi Stejo, we've had a think looking at your recent edits and here are a few pointers that would really help us were you to take them on board.

  • stop adding tracts of hidden info onto pages—this is really not valuable at all for several reasons:
    • anyone wanting to add such info should take it from the original source, for a start
    • you already know, that if you add a note about the required updates to the Meta page, the wiki auto-generates a note in the References section to indicate that there is more material to be added; adding hidden text to the page literally hides this useful info
    • be bold and add the information yourself!
    • if you have not added / cannot add everything from an source to a page, simply add a note in the Meta page that there is more info that can be added
  • pass your edits through a spell checker before submitting to reduce typos
  • check source and page numbers—I noticed many of yours were the wrong page or the wrong book, and this causes a lot of work having to check each one individually
  • try to alphabetise any list you create
  • case is very important on the wiki, so 'Putrid plague' is read as a completely different subject from 'Putrid Plague', so try to ensure any links you create are correct. Here is a help page that explains this further: PathfinderWiki:Naming conventions
  • Don't create self-links, including self-links through redirects ("loop links" or "circular links"). A visitor who clicks a link and is redirected to the page they're already on, without any reasoning or explanation, will be confused. We also embolden redirect targets on the target page. This page explains a lot more: Help:Redirect
  • we try to avoid raw lists in pages and I've seen you create a few of them - consider creating a navbox instead that can sit at the foot of every relevant page and acts as a much more useful aid. For more information about how we create and use them, have a look here: Help:Navboxes

I know that's a lot, and we won't expect you to do all of it straight away, but we hope this is a help to you to understand the areas where you can help lower the burden on other editors by creating more-wiki-ready material, rather than expecting others to complete your work. --Fleanetha (talk) 10:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I've added Help:Creating and using lists to offer some advice on when and how to use lists effectively. -Oznogon (talk) 17:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
thank you of all the help, always trying to do better at catching my own mistakes and learning the wiki writing rules.Stejo (talk) 16:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
We've noticed Stejo - many thanks and keep up the good work! --Fleanetha (talk) 16:37, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Season of Ghosts spoilers

I don't think every NPC needs the entire AP spoiled on their articles. We've gotten very strong feedback that spoiling that AP on the wiki is a poor experience, especially when it's unnecessary, and that due to the scale of the spoiler, just adding a spoiler banner is not enough. I've rolled back the edit that did so on Yong Wu-Xiu. -Oznogon (talk) 14:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

thank for informing me and the rollback—Stejo (talk) 16:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)