Talk:Mendevian Crusades/Conflicts

Year

Various sources conflict on the year in which the Worldwound was closed and the Fifth Mendevian Crusade ended. Per an official canon clarification, the event occurred in 4718 AR, overriding previous sources stating otherwise.

Doomsday Dawn

"The Heroes of Undarin", an adventure in the Pathfinder Playtest collection Doomsday Dawn, is set in 4715 AR. Doomsday Dawn 59 states that 4715 is "a year after the events chronicled in the Wrath of the Righteous Adventure Path" and explicitly states that the Worldwound has been closed.

The adventures in Doomsday Dawn are chronologically sequential across a decade, with the final adventure occurring in 4718 AR, and the plots and events of all seven adventures in the book are dependent on events occurring in a specific order and in specific years. This conflict is therefore irreconcilable barring a canon clarification that revises the conceit of "The Heroes of Undarin". -Oznogon (talk) 20:52, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

World Guide

The Lost Omens World Guide lists two separate years for the end of the Fifth Mendevian Crusade: 4713 AR on page 8 and 4718 AR on page 29. Assuming that the 2013 publication year of The Worldwound Incursion correlates to 4713 AR in the setting, the article assumes that the LOWG page 29 year is correct and the page 8 year is supposed to represent the start of the crusade rather than its end; without official confirmation, the conflict is unresolved. -Oznogon (talk) 05:36, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Quest for the Frozen Flame

Broken Tusk Moon 4, which lacks a timeline, states that the Worldwound closed "seven years ago". Using the publication date in 2022, this would date the end of the Fifth Mendevian Crusade to 4715 AR. -Oznogon (talk) 20:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Travel Guide

In Travel Guide, the end of the Crusade is noted to be 4713 AR, which is consistent with World Guide page 8, the publication date of The Worldwound Incursion, and the events of the Wrath of the Righteous AP itself. The 4718 AR date thus can be assumed to be an error. - HTD (talk) 16:54, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

The new Lost Omens Travel Guide lists the date of the Closure of the Worldwound as 4713 AR on page 114. Which could mean the crusade lasted less than a year.--Unikatze (talk) 18:13, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Official clarification

Luis Loza confirmed on the forums in August 2023 that the correct end year for the crusade and closure of the Worldwound is 4718 AR, and canon mentions of it ending/closing in 4713 are in error.

"The 4718 date is the correct one. During the development of LO World Guide, I asked James about an appropriate date for the closing of the Worldwound. While the AP released in 4713 and the typical rule is to use the year of release with the equivalent year in the setting to determine when the AP occurs, we didn't go with that for Wrath of the Righteous. We agreed that an AP like this wrapping up in just a few months didn't feel right. It's basically a massive war, so it taking several years would make sense, right? Thus, we landed on the 4718 date. However, at some point during the remaining development process, the date got changed back to 4713. It's also cropped up once or twice since then, which has caused this frustrating confusion.

The Worldwound closed in 4718, full stop. We'll be doing our best to make sure that this is the date that's used in the future and being able to help oversee these aspects of the setting as Creative Director will hopefully prevent this mixup from propagating in the future."

Officially resolving this conflict on that clarification. -Oznogon (talk) 19:17, 8 January 2024 (UTC)