Talk:Hellspawn (cambion)
Categories
Re the 'Please check categories' request, the problem is simply that:
- in 1E, hellspawn, and its equivalents, were defined as tiefling heritages (Blood of Fiends), so taking [Category:Tiefling/Heritages];
- which has recently been renamed [Category:Cambion (planar scion)/Heritages];
- in 2E, Heritage has a defined meaning, so now hellspawn, etc. are defined as lineages, so the correct category now would be [Category:Cambion (planar scion)/Lineages];
- at the heritage level, we now have nephilim with the more specific empyrean and cambion as versatile heritages based off the higher-tiered (?) versatile heritage of planar scion.
Thus, we currently have a bizarre Heritage/Heritages category in [Category:Cambion (planar scion)/Heritages] containing lineages of cambions. Tricky.
First suggestion, we create [Category:Cambion (planar scion)/Lineages] and populate it per 2E and make it a 2E-only category. Secondly, we could then revert the name change of [Category:Cambion (planar scion)/Heritages] to [Category:Tiefling/Heritages] and make that a 1E-only category.
Looking more widely at the current category list for this page (which we can use as a guide for similar pages):
1. [[Category:Nephilim (planar scion)]] 2. [[Category:Cambion (planar scion)/Heritages]] 3. [[Category:Ancestries and heritages]] 4. [[Category:Versatile heritages]] 5. [[Category:Please check categories]] <!-- lineage/heritage cats are a mess --> 6. [[Category:Devil]] <!-- 1E categories --> 7. [[Category:Outsiders]] 8. [[Category:Native subtype creatures]] 9. [[Category:Lawful evil creatures]] 10. [[Category:Any land environment creatures]] <!-- 2E categories: not automated --> 11. [[Category:Nephilim creatures]]
1 seems wrong and actually should be [Category:Nephilim (planar scion)/Heritages] or deleted and [Category:Cambion (planar scion)/Heritages] becomes a subcategory of [Category:Nephilim (planar scion)/Heritages] 2 is covered above: suggested to be [Category:Cambion (planar scion)/Lineages] and [Category:Tiefling/Heritages] instead 3 is wrong as hellspawn is a lineage not an ancestry or a heritage 4 ditto, so could take instead [Category:Lineages]? 5 will be eventually deleted 6 is just a reference to the nature of the heritage (1E) / lineage (2E), so could stay 7, 8, 10 are all fine for 1E 9 is suspect though as LE was indicated only as a typical alignment, so this line should be replaced by [Category:Any alignment creatures] and placed above the 1E section 11 is fine for 2E where autocat is turned off.
We'd then have to think about how these categories would be categorized.
This is not something to enact though without a bit of discussion... --Fleanetha (talk) 23:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC)