Talk:-3470 AR
Conflicting sources
OK, this probably really doesn't matter in the long run, but the CS gives the year of Osirion's founding as -3470 AR, while the Gazetteer gives it as -3472 AR. I just wrote the article for -3470 before realizing that there already was one for -3472. I say we go with -3470 as the date, as the CS supersedes the Gaz. brandingopportunity 03:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- I see nothing confirming either of these and agree that the CS should take precedent, though I like the non-multiple-of-ten alternative myself. Perhaps we should make a note on both years that it is disputed among historians so that the debate doesn't arise again? -yoda8myhead 04:12, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Or point out the discrepancy and offer Yoda's as a possible solution, and see what the paizo folks say. As much as I want to not bother them with trivial things, if later on they decide the founding date is important for some module or another I would rather us have the right one. This is another thing I was going to bring up.. when we get conflicting information and it is confirmed to be one way one the boards, should we be putting a note in the article that 'this was incorrectly labeled as this date in [product x]' and cite either the incorrect data or the messageboard thread which is correcting it? this way a new user doesn't come and use the overwrite the correct data with the incorrect.. - Cpt kirstov 04:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Looking at it further, both entries include "ca." so we can probably include both with a reference to the other. "Circa" does, after all, account for a year or two discrepancy. When information conflicts, we should do everything we can to maintain point of view within an article. If the discrepancy can be handled "in character" then we should do that. But if it's a simple typo or admitted error, we can just use the correct information, possibly citing the errata thread on the boards where the fact is first mentioned. In this case, I think we can solve the problem without breaking POV.--yoda8myhead 04:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- In the 14 years since, Paizo has settled on -3470 AR with more precision.
- Looking at it further, both entries include "ca." so we can probably include both with a reference to the other. "Circa" does, after all, account for a year or two discrepancy. When information conflicts, we should do everything we can to maintain point of view within an article. If the discrepancy can be handled "in character" then we should do that. But if it's a simple typo or admitted error, we can just use the correct information, possibly citing the errata thread on the boards where the fact is first mentioned. In this case, I think we can solve the problem without breaking POV.--yoda8myhead 04:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Or point out the discrepancy and offer Yoda's as a possible solution, and see what the paizo folks say. As much as I want to not bother them with trivial things, if later on they decide the founding date is important for some module or another I would rather us have the right one. This is another thing I was going to bring up.. when we get conflicting information and it is confirmed to be one way one the boards, should we be putting a note in the article that 'this was incorrectly labeled as this date in [product x]' and cite either the incorrect data or the messageboard thread which is correcting it? this way a new user doesn't come and use the overwrite the correct data with the incorrect.. - Cpt kirstov 04:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Lost Kingdoms 3 specifically associated the founding of Osirion with Azghaad uniting the tribes of eastern Garund in -3470 AR. In Travel Guide 9, -3470 AR is cited in the same sentence as another nation's founding year which is distinctly designated as an estimate. World Guide 7 and 50 both also state the founding year as -3470 AR without qualifications of precision. -Oznogon (talk) 21:30, 22 February 2024 (UTC)