Talk:Manasaputra

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These non-canon assertions cited to Bestiary 5 conflict with details about manasaputra creation in Planar Adventures pg. 119 and were removed:

Most manasaputras are formless entities forged of the Cosmic Fire from the heart of the Positive Energy Plane. When a manasaputra takes a humanoid form, it is usually resplendent and idealised, often with striking features that clearly set it apart from mortals.1
Manasaputras are formed from the fusion of the souls of the unborn and the potential of those who have learned from lifetimes of reincarnation. They are benevolent entities that follow strict practices of contemplation, introspection and meditation. Though accepting towards new ideas and challenges, a manasaputra can take millennia to adapt to them as they incessantly evaluate the changes to their ideals.1

This non-canon assertion cited to Bestiary 5 is not confirmed in Planar Adventures, which describes both manasaputras and the seven kumaras:

Manasaputras are ostensibly led by the manasaputra kumaras, though each operates as an individual. More powerful manasaputras mentor younger ones, similar to a monastic hierarchy. Lesser manasaputras have deep respect and reverence for greater ones and their phenomenal power.1

These assertions were cited to Planar Adventures pg. 119, but nothing related to the assertions appears in the source:

Manasaputras rarely intervene directly against evil in the Universe, preferring to teach mortals how to better face these challenges. Against great cosmic-level threats concerning the destruction of knowledge or fomenting disorder, dozens of manasaputras might directly work together with aeons and inevitables.2
Manasaputras respect the cosmic balance brought by the aeons, as well as inevitables' determination to their tasks. They are unable to share the passion of agathions and azatas, and are often put off by the zeal of archons and angels, except movanic devas, monadic devas and astral devas, who often also oversee mortal affairs. Their sworn enemies are sahkils, who attempt to hold back mortal development. They rarely interact with evil mortals outside the path of enlightenment, and see them mostly as obstacles to be overcome.12

If there are canon sources for these assertions, please restore them and cite only canon sources. I've been unable to find any such sources. -Oznogon (talk) 23:15, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

References

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Jason Bulmahn, et al. “Monsters A to Z” in Bestiary 5, 162–169. Paizo Inc., 2015
  2. 2.0 2.1 Robert Brookes, et al. “Chapter 3: The Great Beyond” in Planar Adventures, 119. Paizo Inc., 2018