Talk:Starstone

Real world POV notes

Those looking to write for Paizo should note that Paizo are very sensitive as to the use of the word 'Starstone' in anything, even if used in reference to something already in the canon with only loose ties to the actual Starstone such as Absalom's annual Starstone Exaltation meeting. (See James Jacobs, 18th March 2010: Link: http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/rpgSuperstar/round5/doomOfTheDreamThieves&page=2#54 )

Content moved from main article to maintain POV. —yoda8myhead 19:15, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yoda:

I'm not sure why you consider it not pertinent to the Starstone entry that Paizo are very sensitive as to its use. Two of this year's RPGSuperstar contestents had their final round entries shot up by the Paizo judges for use of the word 'Starstone' in their respective entries (and Watcher had simply used a term from the canon featuring the word which had only the loosest ties to the actual Starstone). I'm not familiar enough with wikipedias to understand if you've shunted it off somewhere else or deleted it, but I feel that if you've shunted it off somewhere else that there needs to be a link on the Starstone page that someone can click on to get there, and see and understand what they're getting to by clicking on that link. EG call the link on the Starstone page something like 'Paizo policy on usage of Starstone related material'.

I also felt that the Arazni clarification from James Jacobs was important enough to merit a mention in the wikipedia, so that anyone who sees the information in the first edition Classic Horrors revisited and gets confused can find clarity by making a quick check of the Arazni wikipedia entry and seeing Paizo's official stance on what appeared in Classic Horrors revisited.

Charles.

I never said that either of these is not worth inclusion in the project, but neither is in-character information from the setting. See Point of view for more information about in-world and publication points of view. In short, an article should be written from one of the other, and in-world topics are generally best served keeping analysis and commentary separate. Every article contains a talk page for meta discussion about the articles and topics therein, and we have a Canon policy outlining how to denote and clarify errata to canon sources.

In the case of the information you made regarding Paizo's use of the Starstone, it's been copied here. To this talk page. Right above your message to me. Anyone can get to this by clicking "Discussion" at the top of the main namespace Starstone article. It is important information, and it is useful to people, but it's not a Paizo policy and it's not within the wiki's scope of the project to include it in main namespace articles.

The Arazni discussion above should probably take place on that article's talk page so that other chroniclers can follow developments regarding that article, but since you mention it here, I'll direct you to our Canon policy, which denotes the hierarchy of canon sources. In this case, James's clarification is a Tier 0 source, thus it can be cited directly in the body of the email. If one so chose, the {{Conflict}} template could be added after the clarifying statement to address (on a separate page and not on the main namespace article) the meta discussion of what information trumps what.

Feel free to contact me on my talk page for other questions and clarification about PathfinderWiki Policies and guidelines. —yoda8myhead 22:26, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Just to clarify: Wikipedia is a specific, unique website; the general term for this type of user editable encyclopedic site is a Wiki, not "a wikipedia." That is why this website is The Pathfinder Wiki, and not "The Pathfinder Wikipedia." I'm not trying to be hard on you, but lately I've noticed a LOT of people online making this same error, and I just want everyone to be aware of the difference and the proper term. Calling every wiki-style website "a wikipedia" is akin to referring to every Nobel Prize as a Nobel Peace Prize, as in "the Nobel Peace Prize for Physics," which is, unfortunately, another mistake made by FAR too many people, both across the Internet and in meatspace.--"Hei! Aa-shanta 'nygh! You are off! Send back earth's gods to their haunts on unknown Kadath, and pray to all space that you may never meet me in my thousand other forms. Farewell, Randolph Carter, and beware; for I am Nyarlathotep, the Crawling Chaos!" 19:29, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Starstone & Earthfall

On a separate line, but Starstone associated, the Starstone was part of the much larger Earthfall event, not the extent of it. The Starstone didn't even come down on Azlant, if it can be assumed that it landed pretty much where Aroden picked it up over a millenia later.

I'm not sure if this is entirely Paizo chat related information, or if there are any useful quotes I can find on it.

Charles.

If there is a verifiable source which can be linked to in a citation, any of this information can be added to either the Starstone or Earthfall articles. Let's try to keep the talk namespace for meta discussions of the articles themselves as opposed to a repository of information from undocumented sources. Also, you can sign a talk post by using four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the Signature button above, so that future users know who "Charles" is, have a timestamp, and can link back to your user and talk pages. —yoda8myhead 22:40, April 18, 2010 (UTC)