Meta:Torag

Retroactive canon removal

The following content, citing only Kobold Quarterly #22 9 ("Barbatos: Gatekeeper of Golarion's Hells", by F. Wesley Schneider), was removed from the article by Oznogon:

Torag condemns suicide, and the souls of his worshipers who take their own lives are condemned to Avernus, the first circle of Hell.

While Kobold Quarterly was a canon source when this assertion was added to the article in 2013, it was confirmed to be non-canonical by James Jacobs in the context of Erastil in 2021. Consistent with this decision, subsequent canon sources also omit this detail.

"While that article was written by Wes Schneider, it's also a ten-year old article and I am 100% sure he wouldn't write it that way today.

"It wasn't an article I had any input in, despite being the one who invented Erastil back in the late 80s/early 90s. It's certainly not a part of Erastil's canonical lore today in Golarion. Because, again... Erastil doesn't judge souls. That's Pharasma's job."

The assertion also appears to be a misinterpretation of the source content, which was more general and referenced Erastil and Torag as examples of followers whose souls could be assigned to Avernus. See also Avernus and Book of the Damned 137.

For the version of this article prior to this change, see revision 494561. -Oznogon (talk) 03:07, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Unincorporated sources

• Heaven Unleashed a number of refs --Fleanetha (talk) 12:04, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
• Faiths of Purity 16f., 27, 31 --Fleanetha (talk) 17:07, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
• Major article in Curse of the Lady's Light 70ff. --Fleanetha (talk) 09:41, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
• Paths of the Righteous 24f. --Fleanetha (talk) 17:36, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
• Construct Handbook 13f. --Fleanetha (talk) 09:35, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
• War of Immortals (sourcebook): Nivi Rhombodazzle 131, Worldforge 152-153, Grask Uldeth stabbed Torag 165 --Stejo (talk) 15:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)