PathfinderWiki talk:Manual of style
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Italics
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The manual contains a section dedicated to italics. Can this section document the fact that magic items and spell names are italicized? I'm not certain if that's mentioned anywhere in the Policies. — Descriptivist (talk) 09:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Support. -Oznogon (talk) 16:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Withdrawing all support and exiting conversation. -Oznogon (talk) 22:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Dashes
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Codify the use of HTML named character entities for dashes, long enforced by Fleanetha, to reduce confusion on which form is correct under wiki policy.
The second sentence of the first paragraph of the Dashes section states:
- The article on dashes shows common input methods for these.
The linked section no longer exists. At the time this MoS entry was added, it provided multiple means of entering dashes, including inputting the symbols directly or using HTML numeric character entities (i.e. –.
However, following this policy results in the dashes being reverted in practice in favor of HTML named character entities. I therefore propose we remove that sentence entirely.
I also propose that we add the following after the second paragraph of the Dashes section:
- PathfinderWiki prefers the use of HTML named character entities for en (–) and em (—) dashes. Avoid using any special character entry methods that allow directly entering these special dashes as typographic characters, including the wiki editor's Symbols or Special characters panels.
I also propose that we replace the parenthetical examples in the first sentences of the en and em dash subsections.
As now:
- En dashes (–) have three distinct roles:
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- Em dashes (—) indicate interruption in a sentence. They should not be spaced.
Proposed:
- En dashes (–, –) have three distinct roles:
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- Em dashes (—, —) indicate interruption in a sentence. They should not be spaced.
I also propose that we practice this in the MoS itself. Per the MoS's policy, replace all typographical en and em dashes in the MoS with HTML named character entities. Also per the policy, change all spacing around them to be internally consistent. -Oznogon (talk) 16:09, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Obviously, happy with all of this—thank you, Oznogon—thus, I agree. We can internationalize the section too by noting the US and computer en dash and em dash are also termed en rule and em rule. Finally, on standardization, de facto wiki use of em rules is to leave no space either side, which aligns with Paizo's use, Oxford, and, I believe, most other US publishers. We can then delete point '2' of the 'En dashes' section and the 'Spaced en dashes as an alternative to em dashes' subsection to simplify. --Fleanetha (talk) 23:26, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Two months passed with no dissenters, plus the bot has enforced this as the de facto use across the wiki (use of character entities and associated spacing), so I shall update this accepted policy change shortly. Thanks Oz for bringing up this standardization improvement. --Fleanetha (talk) 17:28, 6 November 2024 (UTC)