Talk:Blackguard

Usage (RESOLVED)

Does this prestige class even exist anymore? --Amethal2 00:10, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Nope, now we have the antipaladin :) Well, technically it does, since there are a few OGL characters in various older publications with that prestige class. --Brandingopportunity 06:52, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Who are those characters? How many have existed? The blackguard and thaumaturgist articles provide no source or context at all as to why they exist or what characters the terms have been used to describe. --Descriptivist (talk) 11:35, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Descriptivist, the demanding tone in this reply to a 13-year-old comment is not appropriate. -Oznogon (talk) 21:43, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

The Blackguard prestige class appeared in:

• Guide to Darkmoon Vale 55, 60; Irik VonSet is described as a blackguard, and his microstatblock lists five levels of the blackguard class.
• Spires of Xin-Shalast 25 lists Brinius Vale, Commandant of the Shahlaria in Xin-Shalast, as has having seven levels of the blackguard class.
• Pathfinder Chronicles: Gods and Magic 7 lists blackguard as a class receiving the infernal healing spells from Asmodeus.
• Gods and Magic 24; Lamashtu's Prince of Madness is a yaenit blackguard.
• Gods and Magic 40 lists blackguard as one of the classes among worshipers of Urgathoa.
• Gods and Magic 41; Dason is described as "her first knight-blackguard", and characters of the blackguard class receive spells from her at specific levels.
• Campaign Setting 169 also refers to Dason being Urgathoa's first knight-blackguard.

The blackguard prestige class's source is the 3.5 System Reference Document, and in one of that game's settings blackguard was a synonym for antipaladin. Several other Pathfinder sources use the term generically, including Crown of Fangs (as a synonym of antipaladin in the destruction requirements for the Bound Blade), Dragons Revisited (as a synonym of antipaladin), and From Hell's Heart (purely generically).

Neither VonSet nor Vale appear in subsequent works. The sidebar in which Vale appears is not in the Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition. -Oznogon (talk) 21:43, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Oh, thank you so much for going above and beyond the call of duty with this much information, Oznogon! That's my bad; I didn't realize I was demanding. I definitely didn't expect Brandingopportunity to reply and didn't think I was owed this kind of legwork. The next time I'm confused by an article's lack of text/sources and want to record that an article leaves readers with questions, I'll try to use the Talk page to keep it objective and just note that I lack the information or ability to solve a question. --Descriptivist (talk) 02:30, 7 December 2024 (UTC)