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Choral the Conqueror

Note to whoever changed Choral's name -it's ConquerOr. Not Er. Please change it back on all applicable pages- I notice that the name was changed in more than one place.

See Pathfinder 31 page 61 for the correct spelling. Amusingly page 61 uses ER once, but OR is the title and is used 6 times total. Also according to the dictionary "conqueror" is the prefered form: vs. ~LD~ 05:22, April 27, 2010 (UTC).


Is it about time to take off the Red bar at the top of the page for the CSII now that Brevoy is more filled-out? ~LD~ 00:13, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Technically, the CSII hasn't been completed on the subject of Brevoy, but if all the content from the Brevoy article in Stolen Land has been, then the {{Update}} template can be removed. —yoda8myhead 00:44, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Just for housekeeping, the CS and Gazetteer have been incorporated into the Brevoy family of articles. FoiledAgain (talk) 01:33, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Needle Lake

Does Needle lake exist any more? Look at Stolen Lands page 66. It seems to be called "Lake Reykal" in that map. -- ~LD~, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the lake has been renamed, as it hasn't been mentioned since the Gazetteer. Luckily, we can use redirects to send the former to the latter, and denote the canon conflict as outlined in our Canon policyyoda8myhead 19:06, April 24, 2010 (UTC)


I'm starting the ISWGII for Brevoy. One thing I'm noticing is the history regarding Choral the Conqueror and how Issia and Rostland were defeated has changed greatly from the Gazetteer through the Pathfinder Campaign Setting to The Inner Sea World Guide. This is going to take some serious reconciliation and {{conflict}} usage, as outlined in the canon policy. I'm also planning on adding the article from Stolen Land at the same time. -- FoiledAgain (talk) 23:39, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for taking on this big job, FoiledAgain! You might have to use some discretion in using material that appears much later in the AP (such as the material on Choral in the final installment, Sound of a Thousand Screams) because it deals with events that are supposed to happen many years after the "present" that is the core assumption here on the wiki. This is a bit of tricky subject, but I'm sure you can figure it out, and of course we can always discuss it here. --Brandingopportunity (talk) 17:50, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Well, the history of Brevoy wasn't as difficult to reconcile as I expected. The rumors in House Rogarvia already incorporate the "continuing the campaign" surprise, so I'm punting :) FoiledAgain (talk) 01:08, 22 August 2013 (UTC)


Hey, this is a really tiny nitpick, but Brevoy is my usual campaign setting so I like things to be clear.

The "large waves of immigration from all over Avistan" line seems to be interpretation of the ISWG source which only lists spoken languages in Brevoy, without explaining where they came from.

Do you guys thing it's reasonable to assume Brevoy has (or had) a lot of immigrants, or is it maybe because Brevoy itself is a big mix of cultures? My understanding of it is that Issia and Rostland are already vastly different cultures, Issia originating (very probably) from Old Iobaria and with a mix of barbarian/northern culture (Hallit, Ulfen/Skald), Rostland originally being a Taldan Colony (Taldane), the only two "weird" ones are Varisian (possibly because Varisians travel a lot, caravans, merchants, If I remember right Brevoy is part of a popular caravan route), and Draconic (which seems related to the subplot of Brevoy, Choral rogarvia being potentially a dragon, maybe the place has some deeper draconic roots, or it could be from Iobaria).

To be honest it doesn't bother me too much, but I was wondering if other sources could confirm the "immigration" bit (I can't find any myself), or if there's a more probable explanation somewhere. If any of you can find a source, i'd be interested! -Narolas (talk) 15:23, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Added some background from the Kingmaker Player's Guide, some of which was repeated in passing in Inner Sea Races. I couldn't find anything useful on Draconic, though. -Oznogon (talk) 04:52, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Nice, hadn't looked at the kingmaker player's guide, I also haven't been able to get my hands on the inner sea races yet, figured something would be in there. I honestly have no idea about the mention of draconic in the ISWG, i'm assuming it's either a leftover of an old idea Paizo wanted to implement in brevoy, or it's part of the whole choral/rogarvia/dragon sub-plot that they haven't yet revealed anything about. Narolas (talk) 19:02, 14 January 2016 (UTC)