Talk:Taldor
Quotation marks [completed]
For some reason this page is not linking to the page created for the World's Edge Mountains.Vagrant-Poet 08:12, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- I fixed the links, although I don't understand why it happened, as the two links were identical. Perhaps Wikia has a problem with apostrophes in a page title? --brandingopportunity 14:18, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- I can shed a little light on this. If you go back and look at the changes between the last two versions, and look very closely (cranking your browser's font size up will help) the the apostrophes. You'll see that the original is a typographic quote, and the fixed one is a keyboard quote. We had a discussion about a similar issue a while back, and I formally proposed a change to the Naming Conventions Policy which should I should get merged into the live document. —aeakett 15:09, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
There should be a way for us to use the bots to replace typographic apostrophes with keyboard apostrophes but I don't yet have the mastery to know what that method is. In the mean time, we should keep an eye out for these situations, and use "what links here" from the incorrect version to find other instances of bad apostrophes in wikilinks.—yoda8myhead 16:54, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
Falcata
I noted the falcata is in the people section - I wonder if it could be moved into the nav box somehow - like a diety's favoured weapon --77stephen (talk) 01:12, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Taldor timeline and recent edits
Brandingopp, I had made a note to myself just last week that I wanted to build a page similar to the Timeline of Andoran and Timeline of Cheliax (among others) for Taldor - and just noticed all the great additions you made on this page which cover a lot of similar ground.
I think both the more detailed text you have done and a timeline of Taldor page to put history in a more concise and linear page (for times when a less in-depth read is what the user wants/needs) would be good. I also noticed the category:Taldor/inhabitants link was removed - but I've seen those types of links on other location pages - was there a specific reason for the removal? 77stephen (talk) 03:31, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hi 77stephen. I am hesitant to suggest a History of Taldor page at the moment, only because it WOULD duplicate so much work, and I always say that it's better to create new content rather than recreate stuff we already have. Also having a separate "History" page means that whenever you have new information on Taldan history, you need to update both pages, which is more time consuming. I think your idea of having a detail-light version of the nation's history is a good one, but IMO, it's a lot of work for little pay-off. Also, if you look at the other "Timeline of ..." pages, you'll notice that most of the content for them hasn't been updated in two to three years, which tells me that they aren't updated a lot and that most efforts are focused on the main pages for those countries. I don't meant to rain on your parade, I'm just giving you my opinion on the subject.
- On the subject of the Nation/Inhabitants category, those should only be added to articles about a unique person, never to those of a country. --Brandingopportunity (talk) 03:48, 6 December 2015 (UTC)}}
- I went through all 96 subcats of Category:Inhabitants by nation and couldn't find any examples of a nation's article in its own /Inhabitants subcat. The closest example is Category:Mivon (city)/Inhabitants, which is categorized under Category:Mivon/Inhabitants; I believe this usage is correct, as the city and nation have separate categories and pages and most Inhabitants by settlement subcats are also categorized in a similar fashion. -Oznogon (talk)
Founding of Taldor
By my reading of things:
- Taldaris was crowned king of something in -1295 AR, maybe the Principalities of Taldaris, maybe Oppara.
- Taldaris starts expanding the Principalities or Oppara in -1293 AR.
- In -1281 AR, his expansion is complete, and either:
- the city-states become the Principalities of Taldaris
- the Principalities of Taldaris become Taldor
Lots of older sources have timelines that read something like this for -1281 AR:
“Taldor is founded by descendants of Lost Azlant and indigenous primitive humans.
”
Which seems at least a little like a conflict considering the expanded information in War for the Crown and Taldor, the First Empire.
More directly conflicting is this statement in Taldor, cited to Taldor, Echoes of Glory:
“Taldor was founded -1281 AR by descendants of Azlant who built a small settlement where the capital of Oppara now stands.
”
Per War for the Crown and Reaper's Right Hand, Oppara already existed ca. -1295 AR, and likely earlier. Otherwise soldiers from Oppara could not have picked up baby Taldaris ripping off cockatrice heads with his lion family and taught him how to empire, and Taldaris couldn't have become grand prince of Oppara in -1295 AR or started uniting the city-states in -1293 AR.
For Taldor, how do we bridge the "Lost Azlant and indigenous primitive humans" side with the tellings in War for the Crown and TtFE? -Oznogon (talk) 18:54, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Took another swing at trying to pin this down without removing existing content: https://pathfinderwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Taldor&type=revision&diff=215803&oldid=206886 -Oznogon (talk) 02:16, 28 November 2018 (UTC)