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I've noticed that you've been doing a lot of work on filling in some of the nations using info from the Campaign Setting and I wanted to thank you for that. We're in the middle of the Campaign Setting Inclusion Initiative and your work is a great help. If it's not too much trouble, if you could take a look at the project page and verify that the work you're doing meets the requirements of the project, please mark down those sections of the book that you have completed so that others involved in the project don't have to go back and double check your work. If you have questions about the project, just let me know, or check out my work on the Alkenstar page (with an example of how I organize my work on the associated talk page). Thanks for all your work on the wiki! -- yoda8myhead 20:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I'll go over the articles you've denoted as complete on the CSII page and double check that all the minor support articles are also done so that they don't fall through the cracks. As for the order of subcategories, there is no set order they need to go in. Use your best judgment and if that means they aren't standardized then I think that's ok. Some articles may have a different focus than others so they should be taken on a case by case basis. -- yoda8myhead 21:28, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


Hey CB,

I have noticed that you've been doing a lot of work on categories recently and I wanted to thank you for assisting with that. Organizing articles in categories can be one of the most time consuming and tedious elements of the project, so I welcome the help.

If you look at the recent changes, you'll see that I've followed behind you in some cases correcting a few things, so I thought I'd point out some standards for you so that I don't have to change your edits. In general, only subcategories should have a leading space in their sort perameter. For example, Category:Absalom/Inhabitants would be sorted as [[Category:Absalom| Inhabitants]] (with a leading space, and not the "Absalom/") and [[Category:Inhabitants by nation]] (without a sort parameter, because it will then be alphabetized under A, for "Absalom/Inhabitants"). Leading spaces should only be used when a category would be harder to navigate to if it were alphabetized. Thus, it is not necessary to add a leading space to Category:Archdevils with respect to its inclusion in Category:Demigods, since it being sorted under A does not make it harder to find. It makes sense that it be sorted before the alphabet in Category:Devils, though.

I plan to make a more thorough guide to categorizing pages, as well as a clear category tree, but this is a large task and I haven't even started it yet. In the meantime, keep up the good work, but try to be aware of the site standards in terms of how categories are placed within one another.—19:10, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

CB, please take note of the message above. I have noticed that you have not implemented the category organization I mentioned above, which is increasing the workload for me as I arrange the category tree. For example, Category:Desna/Servants should belong to Category:Desna| Servants, not Category:Desna| Desna/Servants. If this is unclear, please let me know. Thanks! —yoda8myhead 23:00, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry about that I'm not 100% on the categories issue and the nature of what I have been doing wrong so I'll try and avoid doing that leading space thing on any existing categories. Having looked at the Desna servants I think I understand what I've been doing wrong, that in the category box in the "Alphabetise" section I should have put " Servants" rather than " Desna/Servants" and should have removed the "Desna/" section of the alphabetised section. I think I've got the hang of when to use the leading space at least. I have tried this out with the categories of Irori could you check if I have done it correctly?--Cheddar bearer 00:54, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
It looks like you have the hang of it now. If a category is a subcategory (meaning it uses the format Root/Description, as in Irori/Followers) it should have a preceding space in the sort parameter and then be sorted by what follows the "/". If it's a category without the subcategory naming, it will generally be sorted without a preceding space and by the full category name. Also, if there are a series of pages you want moved from one category to another, or a list of pages you want added to a particular category, you can send those to me in email and I can have YodaBot do the moving.—yoda8myhead 01:17, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
Hi Cheddar, no need to make blank categories - leave them as red links please and I'll get to them eventually. I might miss them if they are made (blue link) but empty. Even better, they are often not difficult to fill in if you take a look at Help:Creating category pages. Ta, --Fleanetha (talk) 16:06, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Fleanetha, no worries if you're happy with that I'll just leave them as red for the time being if that's OK. Thanks, for catching this still don't feel like I quite know what I'm doing with some of the wiki stuff!! --Cheddar bearer (talk) 17:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Awesome work

Hello Cheddar bearer, I just wanted to record a big thank you for all your efforts lately. I checked and you are the biggest non-administrator contributor on this wiki currently by some margin. I particularly like the dedication you have to the Chelish AP sites. Keep up the good work and Happy New Year! -Fleanetha (talk) 11:01, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

No worries, just found myself with a bit more free time recently. Want to try and get all things Kintargo sorted eventually and try and do some bigger articles that are more significant to the setting in general. --Cheddar bearer (talk) 12:40, 6 January 2018 (UTC)


Great job adding info to harpy! -Oznogon (talk) 02:18, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks very much, going to try and do more 'bigger' articles hopefully. --Cheddar bearer (talk) 21:46, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
On my phone Cheddar so pls excuse format and inability to reply on forum. Page you are after is Template:Navbox. That shows how to use a simple navbox and links to the more complicated ones.
Awesome, thank you kind stranger. --Cheddar bearer (talk) 12:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


Good job on the Tian Xia articles, Cheddar bearer. Nice to look back at Dragon Empires Gazetteer again as it's a favourite. I think you've also got the hang of the navboxes it seems. Cheers. --Fleanetha (talk) 23:42, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Fleanetha, it just sort of randomly took my fancy and was such a good book. Still not totally certain what I'm doing with Navboxes but its getting easier! --Cheddar bearer (talk) 20:38, 16 August 2020 (UTC)